what are these hoses?

[mobilesport]

I assume the white PVC pipe is fror drainage but what are the long white hoses that are slumped over ?
Thanks



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[Don_P]

Looks like PEX hot and cold water supply lines.

[mobilesport]

I always thought that there was only one water line that came into the house
here's a picture of how i thought it worked
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[Don_P]

Now take all the supplies you have drawn above the slab, put them under the slab, and pop up at each fixture group.

[ChrisVJ]

Also Pex (hot) is usually run one to each outlet from a manifold next to the tank so you see more pipes than for Cu.

[mobilesport]

Like this ?
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[tooltroll]

Almost. Your cold lines will probably all run from the manifold like the hot ones, with separate lines going to each fixture. Some plumbers still branch them like you've shown, but you get better performance, less pressure problems, if everything runs back to the manifold. Also, usually the cold line to the HWT doesn't run through the manifold, but comes off the main somewhere between the shutoff valve/meter and the cold manifold.

[MtnDon]

Or off a large (3/4) fitting on the manifold end... like the water goes straight through and out the other end to the water heater. That's what mine is with 1/2 going to all the branch points of use.

[mobilesport]

Here's my new plan , i ditched the plan with the Menards garage kit , the only reason i was going to get the kit is that it seemed like a cheap and simple solution but instead by buying piece by piece as i need stuff I'll be able to end up with more of what i really want such as 2x6 walls and scizzor trusses. Here's a picture of my new plan , i know my living room is kinda small but i need a large garage/shop space , I'm not sure how long i can build it yet so i made this temparary plan that is 44' long , I'm going to check with the city to see if i can build it 50' long , if so i'll end up with a larger living room and another bedroom.
Oh BTW I was hoping to run my hot and cold water supplys like in the picture below , the city water would pop up thru the slab and then all my hoses would run thru the wall , the only place that my hoses wont be in the wall would be where they cross the door way by the kitchen , right before the hoses get to the door way they would slope down and they'll be about a 2" slot in the concrete with some kind of grate or rigid sheet metal so i can walk over the hoses without damageing any of them .

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[MtnDon]

PEX is flexible; not as flexible as a garden hose but not nearly as stiff as PVC. I would simply run the PEX up and over the top of the door framing if you are going to keep it inside the interior walls. It is best to run a continuous length from the source maniold to the copper stub out the wall; no fittings within the wall cavities.

[mobilesport]

PEX is flexible; not as flexible as a garden hose but not nearly as stiff as PVC. I would simply run the PEX up and over the top of the door framing if you are going to keep it inside the interior walls. It is best to run a continuous length from the source maniold to the copper stub out the wall; no fittings within the wall cavities.

I was thinking about doing that but i wasn't sure if it would be flexible enough to take them turns , any how I'm going to take your advice and run pex over the door , i changed my design a little to where all my plumbing will be in the wall to the right instead of the wall on the left , with this new design i wont need to take no sharp turns with the pex
Also i talked to the guy at planning and zoning and got the setback requirements and it seems i could build tis thing about 80' long if i wanted , I'll probally go with 50' long with a little bigger living room and another bedroom .
thanks guys
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[ChrisVJ]

Where are you? In most "cold" places you can not run plumbing in an outside wall and even if it is heated a garage/house wall counts as outside. (Drive away, leave the garage door open, come home find all your plumbing frozen.

I guess if you are in Arizona it doesn't matter.

[mobilesport]

Where are you? In most "cold" places you can not run plumbing in an outside wall and even if it is heated a garage/house wall counts as outside. (Drive away, leave the garage door open, come home find all your plumbing frozen.

I guess if you are in Arizona it doesn't matter.
I'm in Iowa , it gets pretty cold here sometimes , I hope that aint the case because i really like my plumbing in that wall , plus another reason i put the plumbing in this wall was i figured if i ever decided to add on to the entire house when i got more money i would extend the garage and then remove the wall between my living room and kitchen making a bigger living room and then building a new kitchen in the left hand side of the garage thats in the picture. If i ever decided to move the kitchen i would be able to easily use the same drains by putting (for example) the sink on the other side of the wall.
Mayby the city would approve if i insulated that wall very well , I'll add that to my questions to ask them.
Thanks for the heads up.

[MtnDon]

Easy way to help with that may be to double the wall. Ask if framing the wall towards the garage with 2x4 or 2x6 and fully insulating that with a second wall to the inside framed to allow the plumbing inside it in the warmer area. Works here in high desert NM (5500+ feet w/cold winters).


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[EDJ13]

mobilesport, a note of caution.

My Mother lives in Framingham, MA. House was built in 1965. Hot water heat. She was away for a month and had the thermostat set at 55 deg.

You guessed it! Pipes froze and burst. The piping had be run along an outside wall that didn't have very good insulation. And it doesn't get that cold in MA. So be very careful about how you run and insulate those pipes.