**Update **Construction Tv

[Cole]

Hey guys I am working on starting a Construction Tv channel. What would you like to see? It is going to be more for the construction professional than the diyer. I have got about 50k wrapped up in this already and I am not giving up. Once again what would u like to see? :roll:

Design
Tools
Construction Projects
etc...

[roger g]

It'sot what we want but what your audience wants.As a Roger audience I would like to see humerous things plus I would like to see mistakes being made ( which shows even proffessionals make blunders) and how they are corrected. I would like to see an older type guy who at least he looks like he's done a lot. I would like to see things done as economical as possible or at least show it as one of the ways of doing it. Too often I see these guys bring in a front end loader to do a job where a guy with a wheelbarrow and a shovel could have done it. Some do it yourselfers really don't mind working hard.

roger

[Cole]

Thank you for your suggestion!!!

[Dragon]

Down with Bob Vila!!!

[doyle]

I would like to see a show about horror stories that homeowners have. Dive into the problems including what the contractor has and hasn't done so far. The show would have a whole team of people that can get results and fix the problem within one or two episodes. Hopefully there wouldn't be too many legal problems involved with naming names and getting the lowlifes exposed.

[Dragon]

I would like to see a show about horror stories that homeowners have. Dive into the problems including what the contractor has and hasn't done so far. The show would have a whole team of people that can get results and fix the problem within one or two episodes. Hopefully there wouldn't be too many legal problems involved with naming names and getting the lowlifes exposed.

Now I'd watch that.

I'd laugh a lot.

[doyle]

The more I think about your proposal for a network, the more I worry that it just won't fly without more of a general DIY-kind of audience pull. I've read that it takes at least $150 million to get a new network launched, so maybe it would be more finacially feasible to just try to get HGTV or DIY Network to buy your ideas for new shows. I'm sure they are always shopping for new shows to replace the ones with lower ratings.

One idea I've been thinking about for years is sort of a cross between 'This Old House', 'Habitat for Humanity', and "Extreme Makeover-Home Edition'.

There are lots of needy families out there who just don't have the resources to improve or even keep up their homes. My idea is to take those families and with corporate donations, advertising dollars, or whatever it takes, to make their homes nice and liveable with all the current basic amenities. No plasma TV's, no swimming pools, no glamour baths.

They would have to put as much time and effort into the project as physically possible, but in the end it would cost them nothing to have nice housing which most people take for granted. Good, wholesome reality TV is what we need more of.

[Cole]

Doyle that is a great idea. I have spoken to some hgtv and diy reps and they are encouraging me to go all the way and try to get some backers for the expense I am going to encounter.

I am working on more corporate relationships that deal with our industry.

I have quite a few but for legal reasons I cant say any names at this time.

[grumpydasmurf]

TV rots the brain.

[Tom R]

Hey, Cole, - - I hope you're going to have an episode on BOM-making! :lol:

[Cole]

:lol: :lol: I will keep you guys updated

[vCarpenter]

Thats a show that can air forever if developed right.

Wood be nice to see the knot so perfect side. Like, some projects do not always end well. Or maybe mention how sometimes the architect can change the 30 different window sizes after the windows are already in.
Maybe scenes of the home owner actually bitching. People could finally realize thru programs like this that 6 months really can mean 1 year...heh

Thats just a few.... it's endless

http://www.CarpentersRule.com coming soon

[Dragon]

Doyle that is a great idea. I have spoken to some hgtv and diy reps and they are encouraging me to go all the way and try to get some backers for the expense I am going to encounter.

I am working on more corporate relationships that deal with our industry.

I have quite a few but for legal reasons I cant say any names at this time.

omg hes going to expose D.R. Horton Homes.

[Cole]

Doyle that is a great idea. I have spoken to some hgtv and diy reps and they are encouraging me to go all the way and try to get some backers for the expense I am going to encounter.

I am working on more corporate relationships that deal with our industry.

I have quite a few but for legal reasons I cant say any names at this time.

omg hes going to expose D.R. Horton Homes. :lol: :lol:

[mjpliv]

Wood be nice to see the knot so perfect side

Do you belong to the regular construction associations or a "splinter" group? :lol: :lol:

[mjpliv]

That was a "sappy" post. Sorry! :lol:

[Thumper]

All these are pretty much covered already on HGTV

Holms on Homes : shows you all the dirty tricks by the less than scrupulous contractors and what Mike has to do to fix things - yeash on one show he nearly condemned the entire house!!! (now an hour long it's sooo popular!)

http://www.hgtv.ca/tv/shows/show_details.asp?showID=66019

Real Renos : shows an endless parade of complaining clients and mistakes of the architects that cause the GC all the headaches and all the nasty parts of the job the GC has to deal with - shows just how necessary a few good employees and craftsmen are.

http://www.hgtv.ca/tv/shows/show_details.asp?showID=52837

If these shows don't scare you out of the business they sure will anger you at those that should have been thrown out of the business!

These may be on just the Canadian version of the network thou... :)

[Cole]

Yep those are not on in the states.

Plus I want to make a channel for the construction professional.

[Cole]

That deals with sheduling, contracts, design, tools, etc...

I could go on forever :D

[vCarpenter]

But I am creating my own group. The Virtual Carpenters Group. Those groups excist? Or you joking? Maybe my goofy play on words? I've done it for quite sometime and it's good practice for a cartoon I am creating....lol

My quick research did find these 2 sites. One is in your neck of the woulds.

http://www.cca-acc.com/home.html

http://www.matthewburt.com/ A real splinter group and nice furnature

Jim

[mjpliv]

Just a bit of fun about the play on words. :D

[vCarpenter]

Do you belong to the regular construction associations or a "splinter" group? :lol: :lol:[/quote]

But I am creating my own group. The Virtual Carpenters Group. Those groups excist? Or you joking? Maybe my goofy play on words? I've done it for quite sometime and it's good practice for a cartoon I am creating....lol

My quick research did find these 2 sites. One is in your neck of the woulds.

http://www.cca-acc.com/home.html

http://www.matthewburt.com/ A real splinter group and nice furnature

Jim

[vCarpenter]

I just posted it twice, dad gum it, lol, still learning this forum. Play on words, I thought so, lol...like "go get the box of toe nails"

Jim

[vCarpenter]

Better yet I wood'nt mind seeing the horrid weather conditions side of this business too. I remember working in Michigan in 1991-92 and if you remember late in the year of 1992 around December I think it was, hurricane Andrew hit and was trying to decide if I wanted to drive to Homestead or move to Vegas NV. Because I thought to myself this cold weather in Mich is history for me...lol Anyways I chose Vegas after hearing about how people were getting ripped off from fly-by-night contractors doing quick jobs in three days that wood normally take 3 weeks...typical.

But back to weather in Mich. WOW. I remember in Troy Mich one year. It had to be 20 degreeze with a 40-50 below whidchill factor and a white-out blizzard and the guy I was working with had us working, lol Ever walk on a wall laying down coverd with tyvek and a little sprinkle of snow added? LOL, it's like powder on a gym floor. We were raising this huge 2x6 wall with a gable (second floor too) 12/12 pitch. The wall was quite prepaired with 2 huge strong-backs (made of 2x8 & temporary) 2 wall jacks and 10 men lifting in a blizzard. I thought I was gonna die when I forgot the stair well was hidden underneath and almost fell thru it just as we began lifting. I'll Never forget those cold days working in Mich. Nowadays I don't prefer anything cold cept for my drink :)

Then on the other HOTTER side of the coin and country there is Nevada. Can't forget about the hot and dry places. We had to cover our nail guns and tool belts when leaving for lunch. Because if you did'nt your hand wood burn from the suns heat on the gun handle. And your hammer wood burn my skin if I was dumb and did'nt wear a white shirt. I worked in 114 degreeze temps in NV b4. I'd start to eat my lunch and my bread would be stale b4 I was done eating it, LOL thats no lie....Horrid.

So, I think the weather conditions is a side that veiwers should see.

[Cole]

I agree, thanks

[mjpliv]

How about visits to a truss factory or window factory.

[Dragon]

Doyle that is a great idea. I have spoken to some hgtv and diy reps and they are encouraging me to go all the way and try to get some backers for the expense I am going to encounter.

I am working on more corporate relationships that deal with our industry.

I have quite a few but for legal reasons I cant say any names at this time.

omg hes going to expose D.R. Horton Homes. :lol: :lol:

If you run into Donnie or Ricky or Kevin tell em I said hi.

One of these days I may tell the story behind the story of why Donnie went into construction.

[Tom R]

Sounds like a great idea, Cole, - - I think I would try to make it more of a combination show, geared toward contractors and do-it-yourselfer's at the same time, - - to attract a larger viewing audience.

Maybe even a little dedication each episode to 'tips and tricks' or something like that. Also, 'most common mistakes'.

The 'business/paperwork' end is rarely, if ever, discussed on any shows I've seen.

The 'Homeowner from Hell' might make a good episode.

Also maybe 'A Hard Day at the Scaffold'.

Don't forget to give Rich (this site) a plug.


P.S. Not to get off-track, but you know what show I get a kick out of? - - Monster House, - - especially when they start fightin' each other. Funny as hell.

[Cole]

Tom, I will keep you updated on the progress.

[Cole]

Editing some stuff this week, I will post a sample next week for you guys. :D

[giddonah]

I find myself in the middle of the construction pro and the diy'er. I don't watch HGTV because it seems like it's for people who have $30k to spend on their bedroom and like to discuss color schemes. TOH would be good if it didn't air when I'm not awake (I'm getting something to record it). I would love to see some shows more geared for serious builders. I saw a show where a building inspector went through the house in preparation for some huge project on HGTV, but what about inspecting a new office building? I'd like to see what it takes to build some medium sized stuff from the ground up. Not compressed into a half hour though. I want to see an episode cover the design and the ground breaking, then another do the foundation and some framing... It seems most shows cut out the cool stuff just when it gets interesting. I'd like to know what serious pros use for tools and how they use them. I'd like to see some cool shortcuts that make working more efficient. My brother in law does 20 houses at a time, what problems does he encounter? (well, I guess I could just call him). I'd like to see Rich fire a guy for messing with the safety on a nail gun. I'd like to see some trips to the emergency room so I know what not to do. I'd like to see some projects that are a little bigger than your standard diy'er like putting up a 20'x50' metal shed. I'd like to see people who aren't entertainers, but builders. I don't want hear them reading off a script like American Choppers (that crap bugs me).

I guess some of this is a little along the lines of TOH, but I don't really see that show that often. I'd like to see some honest guys go to Florida after a hurricane or Kansas after a tornado. I'd like to see the scum bags exposed like America's Most Wanted. Names, photos, hidden cameras, their home addresses (ok, that last one is negotiable). How about a Reality Show like the casino one on TLC(?) that shows the inside of a construction company. How about a show where they just make fun of Bob Vila and Pennington using TomR's puns. How do you build a car factory? An airport? A hospital? A firehouse? A jail?

How about a show where they tackle projects that nobody can handle? I knew a guy who's father did a HVAC job for a building that was so big the GC couldn't find anyone to sub the job to. He rented tons of equipment and hired tons of guys and just did it.

Yeah, I have a lot of wants. Hell, while you're at it, how about hiring me to do something really lame for tons of money?

[Rich]

Well you just listed everything that Bob Vila can't do :) :) :) which IMO is a perfect TV channel.

[Cole]

Oh well you will like my stuff then. I am pretty much doing stuff for the builder/gc/architect. Not for the diyer.

[giddonah]

I just thought of another show. My nephew loves construction. You could do a kids' show all about building stuff. And Bob the Builder cartoons.

[Cole]

Great Idea, I didnt even think of that.

[dhill]

One thing I'd like to see on any building/remodeling/landscaping program is actual cost figures. I don't know who picks up the tab for the reality fix it/build it programs, but I doubt that the homeowner fronts all of that money. And showing those costs can give a ballpark figure for people who need work done, but don't know when they have a good bid or a scam going on.

[Cole]

Good Idea.