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supadave
04-28-2005, 11:15 AM
can i just use steel rafter ties to fasten my rafters to the top plate without notching birds mouth? it's just a 8x10 shed btw. thanks.
Rich
04-30-2005, 09:04 AM
What pitch roof? I assume your talking about hurricane clips?
Sweep
04-30-2005, 09:05 AM
The bird's mouth allows the rafter to directly and securely transfer its load to the top of the wall. It should be the easiest and cheapest way to do it even on a shed.
Joe Carola
04-30-2005, 01:37 PM
Why not put a Birdsmouht?

Joe Carola
supadave
05-02-2005, 03:55 AM
it's my first construction and notching the birdsmouth a dozen times seemed tedious, but if you guys says it is best to do it, then i will. thanks.
bkrahmer
05-02-2005, 09:36 AM
I use a sawzall. I can't stand handsaws. :)
Cole
05-02-2005, 09:38 AM
Just use a regular skill saw, practice makes perfect.
bkrahmer
05-02-2005, 10:36 AM
Come to think of it, I think I used my circular saw to cut to the corner, and finished the cuts with my sawzall. How do you do it with just a circular saw, without overcutting?
Cole
05-02-2005, 10:38 AM
I dont, I finish it with a sawzall.

I thought you cut the whole birdsmouth by sawzall, that is a lot of work.
Joe Carola
05-02-2005, 04:46 PM
Come to think of it, I think I used my circular saw to cut to the corner, and finished the cuts with my sawzall. How do you do it with just a circular saw, without overcutting?

You always cut a birdsmouth with a circular saw and you will always overcut it also. That's not a problem at all. There's millions of houses built that way.

My first boss use to cut them with a jigsaw and when I went on my first framing crew and told them that they thought I was joking and told me my boss must have been smoking something :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Joe Carola
Tom R
05-02-2005, 05:00 PM
Like (Jersey) Joe says, - - circular saw only is just fine, - - the 'overcut' doesn't affect the main rafter at all (after all, - - you could cut all the way through without having any effect on your rafter), - - if it was to have any effect at all, - - it would be on the rafter tail only, - - and that's too short of a span for it to even matter. Having your saw set at full depth will lessen the amount of overcut that is necessary.