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okeefe
06-07-2006, 09:06 PM
What kind of paint will cover it all?

We have a large deck that was recently modified from two levels to one after removing an above ground pool. Some wood (Wolmanized) is new, some old. Two coats of different color paint (oil-base) over one coat of Thompson Water Seal covers the old portion which is flaking off. We recently pressure washed which made the surface fairly smooth.

Is there one good paint that might cover the entire project without sanding? (Sanding the old non-flaking paint off will be a major job.)

Thanks.

CThomp
06-08-2006, 05:35 AM
Did you try pressure washing the old non-flaking paint?

Generally a good high psi washer will take care of this.

Cole
06-08-2006, 09:08 AM
I agree.^^^^^^^^^^


Do not sand it, or you are looking at a mountain of work.

CThomp
06-08-2006, 09:18 AM
Sanding rough sawn wood is just going to leave you really really really angry.

David
06-08-2006, 09:31 AM
R O F L M A O......

Cole
06-08-2006, 09:37 AM
If it was me, I would just rip up the deck and rebuild.


















I kid, I kid. http://www.fadzter.com/smilies/joker.gif

CThomp
06-08-2006, 09:54 AM
:lol:

Here's an idea on that though...flip the boards?

They do that on docks and board walks down here all the time. PT wood really only has a life span down here of maybe 5 years or so when exposed to constant weather conditions, unless sealed constantly.

Cole
06-08-2006, 09:56 AM
:lol:

Here's an idea on that though...flip the boards?

They do that on docks and board walks down here all the time. PT wood really only has a life span down here of maybe 5 years or so when exposed to constant weather conditions, unless sealed constantly.

I have seen it done here, too.

Where are you located, CThomp?

I know you said you lived in Pensacola or Destin, what do you think of the area?

CThomp
06-08-2006, 10:09 AM
I live in Ft. Myers now. Not a big fan of it. To many people and not enough state or national parks close by. I think i've whined about Ft. Myers plenty.

I lived in Pensacola from '95 thru '98. It's grown up alot since then but it is a nice area. Blackwater River State Park is beautiful. I lived in the Cantonement area of Pensacola when I lived there which was a tad more rural. It's probably not anymore. Destin is an awesome place too. The beaches in that neck of the woods and P'cola are great. There's lots of other state parks and what not up there so development is more limited on the coast. But i'm sure thats changing.

Cole
06-08-2006, 10:11 AM
Thank you for the info.

Do you think it would be a good location for a vacation home?

David
06-08-2006, 10:20 AM
Home prices in FL are skyrocketing. I can't imagine it'd be worth it unless you vacation a lot.

CThomp
06-08-2006, 10:20 AM
Depends on what kind of vacation home and location.

CThomp
06-08-2006, 12:44 PM
Were you thinking beach house or hunting camp?

Cole
06-08-2006, 12:48 PM
Beach House.

CThomp
06-08-2006, 01:49 PM
Look at lot prices, !insurance availability!, building time, etc.

You may find you have to have 3 policies on a beach house. You'll have your regular homeowners, flood, and wind.

Also, code is about to become even more strict in that area. You'll be looking at 150mph building code probably. This means mandatory impact windows ($1000 for an egress 38"x63"). 2x6 framing (standard anyhow), simpson strong rod system. Mandatory height for pilings on barrier islands may put you anywhere between 10' and 16.5' depending on the county. Opt for square pilings over round pilings. They're better. If you can do block pilings more power to you.

My parents own a house on a barrier island here in South Florida. Just after their house was done prices shot up to $300 a sq/ft. This is on a bridgeless barrier island though.

Most beach houses will be septic but you'll have a water hook up charge and probably an impact fee. I'm not sure what Escambia counties is.

Right now Escambia county has some of the more relaxed building codes. After Ivan and Dennis the last two years and Opal in '95 I think all that is going to change.

My parents place is in Charlotte county. The inspectors there are very very strict.

If you're looking to straight up buy a beach house you're looking at well over $500K for something on the beach. If not $1,000,000 or more depending on size and age.

The biggest thing right now in coastal Florida is insurance.

Now that i've scared the crap out of you that part of Florida is awesome for a beach house. I had a friend in college whos folks had a place in Navarre.

You may want to look in that direction. Like Niceville, Navarre, St. Joe's, etc. Smaller places. Nice people. Really nice beaches.

okeefe
06-08-2006, 06:11 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. We power washed some of the firmly stuck paint and it did ok. We tried turning the boards over but they cracked. I think it may be smooth enough to paint over now. Oil base? Special deck paint? It has to be something that would cover the remnant of oil base and Thompson Water Seal on the deck now. Thanks again.

David
06-09-2006, 05:05 AM
Valspar (found at Lowe's and other places) can color their Cabot stain to any color in the American Tradition line (that should be enough choices). Not sure if it will cover the oil base, but I'm inclined to say yes. I can put you in touch with a Valspar rep if you wish.

okeefe
06-09-2006, 12:55 PM
Valspar sounds like a good option. I'll check it out at Lowe's. Thanks.