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grumpydasmurf
04-14-2004, 04:13 PM
This was ripped freom buildingonline.com I thought you guys might find it as interesting as I do.

SURVEY REVEALS TOP 3 COMPLAINTS ABOUT REMODELING CONTRACTORS
04/14/2004
A new survey finds that the top three complaints about contractors from respondents who had used an outside contractor in their homes within the last few years were:
-- Not showing up when they say they will.
-- Jobs that take longer than expected to complete.
-- Waiting a long time for work to be scheduled.

The survey was conducted by Opinion Research Corporation on behalf of the SCOTTŪ Rags in a Box business.

As for pet peeves, the biggest ones reported by this group were:

-- Not cleaning up after the work is finished.
-- The mess and the dust.
-- The invasion of "personal space."

Respondents who had hired contractors were also asked to describe how they felt when contractors were in their homes. While one third said it didn't bother them to have workers around, 17 percent reported feeling like they had to stay home all the time to protect their possessions from theft. Thirteen percent said they felt "creepy" with strangers roaming all over the house, and nine percent said they wished they could leave for vacation and come back when it was over. Six percent reported feeling like they were living in a demolition zone.

Overcoming Objections
How can home improvement contractors improve their image? One way, according to 8 in 10 respondents, would be for them to wear gloves, shoe mitts, disposable coveralls and provide their own clean-up products, such as drop cloths, pre-moistened hand wipes or disposable towels that remove dirt, dust and paint.


Despite these concerns most people will still need outside contractors because they don't have either the time or skills to do many home improvement jobs themselves. Nearly half of those who had hired contractors said they did so because of their own lack of skills, while one quarter cited lack of time. There were gender differences here with women more likely to select lack of skills and men lack of time. Overall impressions of the final outcome of a job by an outside contractor were largely positive, with close to half saying it generally met but did not exceed expectations. Nearly a quarter said it usually exceeded expectations. Only a small number said jobs rarely met expectations or boasted that they could have done the work better themselves. Ten percent reported feeling relieved not to have to do the work and 7 percent said they were happy the job was over, but wondered how they would pay the bill.

Top Jobs
The jobs most likely to be turned over to a contractor were: additions or renovations, followed by outside work -- such as roofing, gutters or siding, electrical work, window replacement, carpeting or flooring, plumbing, and kitchen or bathroom remodeling. The two home improvement jobs people were most likely to do themselves were painting and wallpapering. Saving money was the main reason people said they would undertake a home improvement job themselves. Next was pride and satisfaction in doing the job themselves.

Relying on Word of Mouth
Despite a proliferation of circulars, flyers and Yellow Pages ads, the vast majority of respondents (81 percent) said they would be most likely to hire contractors based on recommendations from neighbors, friends or relatives. No other referral source came close. More than half the respondents reported checking references all or most of the time.

Survey Methodology
The national telephone survey of 1,013 adults over the age of 18 was conducted by Opinion Research Corporation on behalf of SCOTTŪ Rags in a Box. It was undertaken from March 11-14, 2004. The margin of error is plus or minus 3 percent for results based on all 1,013 respondents and plus or minus 5 percent for results based on the 397 respondents who had a contractor do work in their homes with the last few years.

roger g
04-14-2004, 05:41 PM
Interesting. I see it as two problems and that all the worker problems do in fact exist some of the time. I also think that customer expectations in some cases are too high. Some of these expectations are caused by the contractor selling himself and his quality too much. It's fine to put on booties when you enter a house but what happens when you have to go in and out of the house 100 times! Was the time factor putting these booties on and off plus the cost of 100 booties factored in? I bet not! Threading pipe outide is a messy and oily job and you have to keep going back and forth. Am I expected to wipe the pipe inside and out side plus wash my hands everytime I enter the house. What I'm saying is that whoever is selling the job should impress upon the customer that this is a construction project and that they are inherently dirty and that all resonable attempts will be made to keep things clean. Plus there is a cost factor in trying to keep things clean or as clean as the salesman is trying to sell. What people want and what they are willing to pay for are two different things.

roger

Rich
04-14-2004, 05:50 PM
Yeah - a lot of complaints stem from not realizing what is going to actually happen once a contract gets signed. Especially on remodels. It's going to get dusty and messed up - that's just the way it is. But, as you state, contractors need to impress that fact upon the clients instead of trying to sell the job.

grumpydasmurf
04-14-2004, 08:14 PM
Roger I agree with you 100%. While I agree every attempt should be made within reason to keep a job site clean, I also think it's the sales persons job to explain the situation so the consumers perception and expectations are realastic.

We keep our jobs very clean. It takes extra time but it is our niche. If you want a clean job, your not going to get a job any cleaner than by us.

Communication is key. "Mr. & Mrs. Home owner, while this will be a dirty project we will make every attempt to clean daily. We use precautions to minimize debris, however there will be some debris we will miss. Our number one compliment is on how clean we are, but we can't get every speck of dirt." That's 100% true and puts the customers into a mode of realisitc expectatins.

Funny, but every contractor that responded all picked up on the "debris-dust" part of the post. Nobody is commenting on anythign else. This holds true for all the forums I posted the thread.

roger g
04-15-2004, 05:16 AM
I get furious at people who sell the job whether that person is the boss or a salesman. The sale becomes the number one concern. I'm not knocking sales but don't blame the workees for not bringing the job in.on budget. In short , don't blame the wrong people for a poor quote. I remember one job where we could not park anywhere near the site even to unload our stuff. The travelling time back and forth by the guys ate upp any profit that was envisioned and WE got the blame. Just one example of many many poor quotes. And god knows what they promised the customeer to get the job.
It would be interesting whether any customer was asked what THEY expected during construction. It might save some future problems, I remember watching a customer going around with a level checking whether his copper plumbing pipes ( which would be hidden) whether they were exactly level and I do mean exact! I tell people in some cases that this is construction it is NOT cabinet making!
Roger

grumpydasmurf
04-15-2004, 10:29 AM
Roger if the budget is realistic, who else is to blame? Yes salesmen sometimes underbid a project, but the same holds true for the installers who sometimes slack on a project or make alot of scrap.

When ever my foreman has to leave the job site, production slows down 50% and if he's not there for the cleanup, the cleanup is not up to par.

roger g
04-15-2004, 01:48 PM
If your men slow down 50% when your foreman leaves and you haven't factored that in knowing the problem then it is a poor quote. It becomes a "known" and should be factored in. Then again, some heads should roll if production slows down that much when the foreman leaves. A good quote in where all the known factors are priced accordingly and there is reasonable profit and the bid is accepted then that is a good quote. If the job doesn't make a profit then a detailed scrutiny of all aspects, including the quote, should be undertaken and corrections should be implemented.
Granted it is easy to say but people must take the time to critique every contract after all the main reason being in business is to make money, not be a charity organization.

Roger

grumpydasmurf
04-15-2004, 05:03 PM
The foreman is not supposed to leave. However we all have lives outside of roofing and emergencies spring up. The point I was trying to make is it's not always the estimators fault. Installers are not perfect. Neither are estimators. I am an estimator and I admit my mistakes, but installers fug up too!

Daniellwarrenjr
06-23-2004, 09:34 PM
These are all very good points. remodeling is so very diferent from any other type of construction and that is why it cost higher. any time the customer lives in the work zone you have to factor in the slow downs that come with it . no matter how big the parking area is you allways have to be moving the trucks for the homeowner. everytime you happen to make eye conact with said home owner a conversation will begin and they don't understand that you cannot stop work to chit-chat awhile.and don't forget all the knick-knacks that you have to be careful of.I allways tell my customers to remove thier treasures before we show up but it never gets done until starting day.as far as cleanliness I make sure the customer understands what a "working mans clean up " is and I have never had any complaints in that area. when tearing down and building walls the dust does go everywhere but we do clean most of it. sorry though, we don't do the priceless treasures , better dusty than broken. thats what makes remodeling such an adventure instead of just a job :lol: